This banner here was draped over the podium at the Downtown group, the original group of Springfield Missouri that came from Jean's house, and landed in several hotels in the downtown area so it just got the name Downtown group. So that was the banner a lady who worked for a casket company, and had a piece cut and then had that symbol applied to it somehow, the AA symbol and they used to draped it over the podium for speaker night that's what I understood about that. Ted H Past Archivist.